13 October 2015 – Chief editor of the magazine De Architect Harm Tilman went on a field trip together with my friends Floris Cornelisse, Job Floris and Jan Peter Wingender and myself to visit and discuss projects designed by us. We regularly talk to one another to exchange ideas and experiences. De Architect published a long group interview and documented the four projects, including the housing project at Oranjeboomstraat designed by me. Harm Tilman is generous. He speaks about a promise.